Suited Cards

Posts: 505 · Posted: 24.05.2006, 00:56

OK..I would like to know how everyone plays suited cards...as in Ace/1-9 suited or K/1-9 suited??

Posts: 2 · Posted: 24.05.2006, 23:07

Unless I have position, most of the time, I don't. Some people like to limp with A rag or K rag. Once in a while, this produces a nice win, but overall, it's a negative value proposition.

Posts: 505 · Posted: 24.05.2006, 23:09

Thank you for your reply but what is a "rag" that you refer to?? I am VERY new at this poker thing!!! Shocked

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Its abit late by now beckie, you may know all this by now.
im not a great lover of suited hole cards, unless there high card connectors, and then it comes down to position, who your playing with & most off all your chip stack, theres no point calling with A-8 A-9 suited UTG if theres 4-5 players to bet with bigger stacks than you.

You may want to play it like C(JESUS)F , if your going too play them in an early pos,n play them hard and fast (as in all-in)
BUT remember pre-flop any high cards connected or not are out beat by a little old pair of 2s.

my second way is to sit back and let the hand unfold, always watching the other players reactions & betting, my way of thinking is K-Q rules in the land of an unraised pot, whether suited or not.
to many players see suited cards as a flush, the hole cards dont even make up half your hand,
theres still 5 more cards to come and you need to hit 3 of them, AND then
have you got the nut flush when you do hit.

So depending on the other players i'll play them very hard (if high suited)

mid suited connected- as cheap as possible, to see a cheap or free flop.

as for 4-5 5-6 up to 8-10 suited i treat them all like a A-rag, I'll just sit back and watch the hand develope.
As for your 2nd Q, a rag card is a card that is off little or no help to you
IE: K-2,3,........8 the lower card being your rag card, UNLESS SUITED, and it comes back to position, opponents & your stack size,
you can't bully in an position without the stack to pull it of.

I hope that explains it a little,,,,, im now just going too change my name as all the forum know how i play, OR AM I BLUFFING

BL4DES

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However after all that, is it value for money, are you getting good odds
FOLD EQUITTY is always the key factor with any hand,if your getting good pot odds for alittle out lay go for it.

any more help try reading "slansky or super system(DB).
But at the end of the day we all play our hands different.
just remember "winning with the best hand does not make you a great player",
"its winning with the worst possible hands thats what make you a great player" Smile

Posts: 2913 · Posted: 06.02.2007, 10:48

Darlin' Beckie ,

Honey, aren't you glad your Guru is a good teacher who knows how to explain something so it can be learned?

Some guys like to put on an exhibition with their first interest in doing so NOT to make you understand, but to impress you.

Forget what has been said above. If I had had even an hour of sleep last night, I would answer your question now.

As it is, I hope you can wait a few hours while I grab a nap.

BY THE WAY, POKER PROS DO NOT TALK THAT WAY!

Is my point made clear enough?

BLA4 DES!!!! Your fellow Crusher was asking for HELP, not a performance! These Crushers know I always have to say exactly what I think and I do not have time to mince words.

So I must say, I am a little disappointed in how you "helped" your sitemate. We are a team here. Not individual stars.

Would you like to try again, this time with your primary purpose being to HELP her?

Of course, it is your choice to volunteer or not.

Beckie, If he does not, I will answer your question after while. Don't worry about it. Just remember you came in #1 out of 240 last week!

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Sorry Guru, yes your right im not a poker pro, and it was not meant to be a lesson.
beckie ask for help how to play suited cards, this is the way I play them
you and everyone else at the table may play them different, it wouldnt make sense for us all to play the same.

However the more information you gather from a variety of players can only stack in your favour.
without offence how would you play them & explain how to play them
but at the end of day it will still be only your opinion.

BL4DES

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ok beckie, i like to play an Ace with any picture card suited big pre flop
so i bet them big to scare some weaker players out of the pot, but once the flop turns i still keep betting even when ive not hit still hoping my big cards are winning.
from 7 too 10 suited, i will play any of these two cards in a late position to see the flop if its cheap enough, as these 4 cards offer me so many outs.
but just because there suited i dont get married to them, unless there big, best get rid.
BL4DES

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lol beckie ive just noticed you post was 9 MONTHS ago with no input
from fellow p,crushers,
ive gave you my thoughts and got put down, by some one who spent more time replying and running it down, without helping you him self.
LOL i need some sleep, then if BL4 DES cant help, then i will,,,LOL

YOUR 9 MONTHS TO LATE,, POKER PRO.

I DONT MINCE MY WORDS EITHER.

SO ANSWER beckie's QUESTION

im no pro but at least i gave my opinion, what did you contribute?
if you have a prob with what i write just PM me, dont put me down in the open for some thing i did HELPING.

BL4DES

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it is better to keep ones mouth shut and appear dumb,
than to open it and remove all doubt.

Posts: 2913 · Posted: 07.02.2007, 10:08

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YES you did welcome me, as for that thank you.
but as i read it YOU ridiculed me for giving some advise too beckie which was 9 months old, too which where is your input?
AS FOR A PROFESSOR there is on 24hrs in a day not 36.
ALL MY PROFILE IS FILLED IN, EMAIL you have, or else would you have sent me he password for 3d?????????????
as for watch my self LOL, what was wrong with what i wrote to beckie?

DONT EVER THREATEN ME WITH WORDS PRIMARY SCHOOL TEACHER

Posts: 2913 · Posted: 08.02.2007, 03:49

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